Oleksandr Matiash: "When you’ve been sitting in hole with knee-deep in water for four days, even though you came here for day, and you can’t get out because there’s no one to f#cking replace you, your optimism fades."
"All men will have to fight," says Ukrainian Armed Forces junior lieutenant Oleksandr Matiash, call sign Magyar. He knows well what war is. In 2015-2016, he was in Donbas. After the full-scale invasion, he went back to defend the country.
At first, he defended the Kyiv region. Then he defended Bakhmut, Klishchiivka and Andriivka, where the situation was extremely difficult. He took part in the summer counter-offensive, which he now calls a trap for us. We are talking about this while sitting in сapital Podil, one of Oleksandr's favorite places in his hometown. There are a lot of people around.
- What are you thinking about now, looking at the civilians?
- That they are all at chillout. Look how many people are walking around. They don't feel the war at all! I'm not talking about any active phase of it. At least about the tension that everyone who is somehow involved in the frontline is experiencing now. People are walking around, talking, but in fact, someone is fundraising for used cars or drones somewhere, and most of those we see now are not involved. I can assume that some of them are doing something. But I still have the impression that nothing is happening here. Everything is fine with them.
- Did you ever have this feeling before when you came to Kyiv? Do you understand when this shift in people's minds took place?
- When the Russians were pushed back from Kyiv, the danger was over, and these metamorphoses began. Then those who fled the city on February 24 returned. I remember Kyiv when it was almost under siege, and there were battles in Irpin, Borodianka, Malyn, and Moshchun. There were no people in Kyiv. And when they returned, they had the impression that everything was fine. Especially after the summer successes of 2022, when the Kharkiv and Kherson operations took place to liberate part of the territories, these victorious statements started: "Wow, we f@cked everyone up!" But war is a long game, a chess game, not just you come, you kick ass, and you're a winner. No way!
- In that empty and dark Kyiv, did you ever think that it might lose?
- You know, no matter how it sounds, I was happy then. My son has been studying abroad for several years now. I sent my daughter from Kyiv at that time. I knew the day before that there would be an attack. There were questions about the time. But I warned my ex-wife, my daughter's mother. I had money for them and a route of departure. On 24 February at 4.30 am, I gave them a paper plan and money. I took a photo with my daughter. I thought it was my last photo with my child. I believed that we, those who stayed, would not survive, that we would all be killed. That day I had such an impression. Then it slowly changed when I saw how many people joined the defense. But when there were no unnecessary people here, when the panic subsided, and only those who were doing something remained, I felt really calm. I was very confident. I was not afraid to die. I had no illusions that we had a good chance of winning. But at that moment I was ready to fight to the end.
- How did you know about the attack? Few people believed our foreign partners' warnings the day before.
- Firstly, I have been studying military history for many years. Secondly, there were formal signs that an attack was planned. Thirdly, I have a specialized military education, so I know that logistics, a foothold for an offensive, etc. are prepared before any military action is taken. Even when they marked their equipment in Crimea with V and Z markings, I realized that they were preparing. In addition, there were snippets of information from the special services. Initially, the attack was scheduled for February 10, then for February 16, then for February 22, and on February 24 it happened. That is, I was absolutely sure, I knew for sure that the attack would take place. I understood that a war ends only when one side achieves its goals. The goal of destabilization that happened in 2014 was not achieved by the Russians. So they had to take the next step. And I realized that they would still send in troops because their representatives were in the occupied territories. For example, in Ilovaisk, we fucked up solely because a Russian armored personnel carrier with tanks came in and kicked our asses.
-If you knew about the attack, did you have an agreement on what you would do?
- Yes, Lonia Ostaltsev and I talked and prepared a lot about this.
I used to shoot, and so did he. So we trained together. Our last training sessions were focused on CQB - urban combat. We had an agreement: if something happened, we would meet at Veterano (Ostaltsev's pizzeria - O.M.) and then start our actions from there. By the way, Lonia was the first person to call me when the rocket attack started. Because I usually sleep well under fire, I don't wake up. And he woke me up. I said: "I'm going to solve the problem and I'll be at your place in an hour". I called my second wife. I told her that I was waiting for her and my daughter in 20 minutes near the house. As I told you, I gave them the money and the plan of departure. Then I took my weapon, body armor, helmet and went to Veterano. We contacted the Marshal (the head of the patrol police, Yevhen Zhukov - O.M.), Yura Zozulia, who was the head of the Kyiv patrol police at the time. We found out what their plans were and joined the patrol police from the first day. Lonia is still there, and I was there for about three months at the beginning.
- So you were in Bucha and Irpin then?
- I did not take part in the fighting there. Our group entered Irpin. At the entrance, it was crushed. It was the whole column. Then Andrii Khlyvniuk was wounded - a mine fragment hit him in the face. There is even a video. He just didn't post it anywhere. I think he's a good guy, and he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. So we had a good time. When they were knocked out the next day, we had already entered Irpin and Bucha. We performed more police functions.
Just like in Kyiv before. Back then, few people let the police out on the streets. Because two police cars were shot at, because there was discommunication, and there was a psychological operation. There were a lot of fakes about the breakout of the subversive group. We reacted to this and localized these moments. Marshal organized all this work very well. We had a group working near the Zhuliany airport in case of an airborne assault. Then, when everything was over here, we moved to Dnipro to work on the eastern part. It was time for me to join the Armed Forces. I wrote a report, resigned from the police and mobilized.
- Why did the time come?
- According to the charter, the patrol police should not take part in hostilities. I had been preparing for kicking @ss for two years. At that time, the first losses among my friends began - someone was killed, someone went missing. I came to see Marshal, and we talked about further plans. He said that sooner or later this story would end. There was already order in Kyiv, and the front line was more or less stabilized, meaning that somehow we had recovered from the first attacks, and qualified, experienced people were already needed on the front line. I had a military education and realized that with my knowledge and experience, I could be more useful in the army. That's why I joined the army.
- And where did you end up at first? Was it already in Bakhmut?
- No, at first I got into a unit that was being formed. Some of the people who were in the police also expressed a desire to serve in the Armed Forces. They went with me. At first, we were at the training grounds for coordination. And we did go to Bakhmut for our first mission, but it was already in the fall. In winter, we also fought in that area.
- Bakhmut was hell...
- There was a different war in Bakhmut. In my opinion, the situation in Avdiivka was more complicated. But, indeed, at that time, the Bakhmut direction was the hottest spot, and you have to understand that Bakhmut is not just the city itself. I was there when it was completely ours, and we left when the city was already undergoing urban fighting. The area of responsibility of my unit was the settlements of Klishchiivka, Andriivka, Ozarianivka and Kurdiumivka. The largest number of combat clashes in which I personally participated took place in Klishchiivka.
- Were it mostly Wagnerites who fought there?
- Not only that. Both "mobiki" (a slightly derogatory term for mobilized soldiers in Russian - ed. note) and regular units. They are all very different.
- Was it such a kind of "mix"?
- No, it wasn't. There was a rather interesting and clear structure. The first to go were the mobiki, who identified firing points and were killed. Then came the " Wagners". And when they failed, the regular units came in. Then the mobiki ran out. The Wagners began to do this work.
And I can tell you: they are good at it.
- And besides, they are learning, aren't they?
- They react faster. I can compare, because I am also involved in training now, and I can say that they are more flexible than we are. Look, the war a year ago and today are two different wars. There were much fewer drones in the same Bakhmut. And there were no FPVs at all. I used to be able to drive a car very close to the platoon post. It was possible to organize the medical evacuation. It was possible to maneuver somehow. Now, with FPV, it's gone. Although Bakhmut was really difficult. We were lucky - we didn't even have any wounded. We worked with Adam's group, Yevhen Mezhevikin. He is really rocks! He is a very good organizational officer. We have a good relationship. I can say a lot of good things about him.
- What else do you remember about Bakhmut?
- I had a lot of emotional experiences there. I met a lot of people there with whom I had previously crossed paths in the "peaceful" world. For example, Lokha Kelt from the 3rd SAB. I thought he had died in Mariupol, but he was alive. That's great! I also met Vova Shevchenko from the 46th Brigade, who took part in very difficult battles there. He was wounded. So there were a lot of people with whom I used to communicate. Many of them showed their best side. But there were also those I relied on, but they let me down. It's a cool experience, actually.
- Did you communicate with the locals? The military told me that there were people in Bakhmut even with small children.
- It was true. I had a case when the city was already being hit so hard, journalists came to deliver food for dogs to the Point of Invincibility. I picked it up and drove to the point where we were going to meet to resolve issues, hid the car in the yards, and saw this picture: parents were leading a small child of about four years old by the hand. They were walking and talking, and a block away, mines were falling, and there was dust and dirt all around. But they were there. Three families remained in Klishchiivka even after we left.
- Are these the so-called "the Awaiter"?
- They can be the Awaiter or people who say: "This is not our war. What can they do to us? I am a peaceful person!"
- They can kill you.
- We are in Kyiv right now. Do you see people who are worried that someone is dying defending them? No, I don't. So how are they different from those over there?
- It is calmer in Kyiv. There is no continuous shelling from anything.
- But Zircon does not choose where it flies! I think people who say that this is not their war are infantile. I have seen many of them. In Klishchiivka, we had a firing position with a family with children living near it. We were setting up an artillery unit. The man realized that the shells would be fired back, took the family and went to the cellar of the neighboring house. "F@cking great!" I said: " Leave!" He answered: "Where am I going to go? I grew up here". They stayed. By the way, they were most likely shot by the Russians when they entered. Our troops saw from a drone: three men were forced into a church, from which they never came out. I assume that they did not end up well. But maybe they survived. Who knows...
- You mentioned Avdiivka in our conversation. I remember that at critical moments we even talked about getting the cauldron there. How did you see the situation?
- I am not a military strategist. I have a very small position in the army. My thoughts are purely my subjective vision. I cannot question the actions of the leadership. Not because I am in the Armed Forces, but because they know more. Based on what I saw, I would, of course, try to straighten the contact line by removing this "pocket". It reminded me of the Debaltseve salient in 2015 - it was very similar, in my opinion. If we had straightened the contact line and prepared the second and third positions, I think we would have lost less. Although none of us knows what would have happened. I do not understand the strategic importance of this point because I am only a lieutenant.
- A lieutenant who fought before 2022, which is important because experience also matters.
- You see, war is multilevel. These battles in Avdiivka have been able to tie down the huge forces of professional military personnel of the Russian Federation. No matter how big it is, they need not only money but also time to train professional and motivated soldiers. Having knocked out all that crap, we eased the pressure somewhere else. For example, things were not good in Kupiansk at that time either. As well as in Zaporizhzhia. If the Russians hadn't been tied down in Avdiivka, they might have used these troops here as well. That's why I can't say how it would have been better. I did not see the whole picture. I don't want to be like experts like Losha Arestovich - f@ck him (you can write it that way) - who said: "Two or three weeks and everything will be f@cking amazing!". No, it won't be like that! You cannot give expert opinions on a situation that you do not thoroughly understand. Look, there were a lot of motivated Russian military formations in Avdiivka, including special forces, who went in and were "ground down". Just think, these troops would have been sent, for example, to the Zaporizhzhia direction, where we needed to reorganize and replenish, and they would have kicked our asses there. It would have been the same Avdiivka, only in a different place. This is a very complicated story. So when a person gives you a simple solution on how to win this war, you can just say in your face: "Go f@ck yourself!". If you're so smart, why aren't you in the General Staff? You look at those talented uncles handing out their grades and think: "Why haven't we burned down Moscow yet?" Let me repeat: even the military can only express their opinions on certain issues based on where they are, and not make comments to the leadership.
- Based on where you are now, how do you see the war's current stage?
- Not even halfway through.
- Since when? The beginning or the full-scale offensive?
- The full-scale offensive. Before that, the war was completely different. It has changed a lot. I can see this in the documents we work with and in the training of personnel. They need to be changed, as well as the attitude towards soldiers. A soldier is not always an asshole. Most often he is not. He is a person who has some experience and wants to survive. How he ended up in the army is another question. But many fewer people were in this war from the very beginning. They were motivated and ready to fight to the last. Those who are coming now may not have fought before, and they joined the army not by choice, but because it happened. This is the kind of personnel we have now. We need to work with them, not just say: "Hey, soldier, come here!" This is not an 18-year-old boy. This can be a 45-year-old man who is smart, erudite, and so on. He can answer, correct you, and be right. You have to reckon with this, take it into account.
- We have not yet mentioned the summer counteroffensive. What was it like for you? I know that you were in the Zaporizhzhia direction.
- I believe that with the counteroffensive, we "queer the pitch for" ourselves. It has been talked about and announced for a very long time. In his treatise "The Art of War," Sun Tzu wrote: "If you attack, your enemy must be sure that you are not ready to attack. And it was all over the news: "Counter-offensive! We're going to show you!" Everyone expected the same effect as the Kharkiv or Kherson operations. But it did not happen as expected. The Russians were ready. As far as I know, they saw our plan, so they understood what was going to happen. We walked into a trap that was prepared for us. You can evaluate the results of this counteroffensive in any way you want, but the fact remains that we are facing a war that we have never faced before. As I said, enemy drones have begun to dominate the skies. Our first task before the counteroffensive was in the village of Lobkove. We saw the massive use of FPV drones. Then there was an offensive on Robotyne and Verbove. First, everything there was mined. Secondly, they had a lot of drones. Thirdly, their artillery was firing non-stop. In the direction of Tokmak, there were more serious fortifications that needed to be broken through.
And in such assault operations, the losses are different. The forces and means are not infinite. That's why it turned out the way it did... But it was a good experience for the future, how to fortify yourself and what to do if you are attacking. We have something to think about and even change the doctrine a little bit. Because all the guiding documents do not mention FPV and drones as such. There are small references. However, the charter has not changed significantly since Soviet times. In addition, it is focused either on contract soldiers or conscripts aged 18-20. And the average age of a soldier has changed a lot. Accordingly, so has their physical and moral fitness. This must be taken into account. If we are talking about the army, we need to become more flexible to win this war. If we are talking about the state, and I am sure you will ask me a question about mobilization, I will say this: the government does not communicate with citizens. Our authorities need to recognize that there must be changes. We need to talk to society like adults, not like children. Look, the TCR (territorial center for recruitment) has become a real devil in people's minds. There are a lot of memes about it. Those who don't want to join the army are hiding from the TCR officers. So society is reacting. But no one tells them that most of them will be f@cked if the line falls down. When I went to Bucha and saw people shot and burned, I had no illusions about what would happen if the Russians came to Kyiv. People need to be informed that this war will affect everyone one way or another, today or tomorrow. In Israel, everyone serves in the army: men, women, people with autism and ICP. They know perfectly well what will happen if they do not defend themselves - they will simply be destroyed! For some reason, ours do not think so.
- Are the authorities afraid to tell people the truth? Does it want to be liked?
- I don't know why this is the case. Indeed, any government wants to be liked, to be good, and to think about the next election. And here is a mobilization that no one likes. If it is carried out, they will say that Zelenskyy is bad. The law on mobilization has not yet been adopted. There is no transparent relationship between the state and those who are currently defending it. I mobilized on June 10. In a couple of months, it will be two years since I've been here. How much longer do you have to be here? Actually, I also have a business that works, but not well, because it needs to be managed. I have two children and a wife. I want to spend time with my family. Why can someone afford it, but those who are fighting cannot?
- Do you have any hope that the situation will change? Are you an optimist at all?
- I don't know if it will change... You know, those who are at war are tired. When you've been sitting in a hole with knee-deep in water for four days, even though you came here for a day, and you can't get out because there's no one to f**king change it, your optimism fades. There are a lot of people like that. Then some of them come to the rear, and they are treated like dogs. You've seen the news recently about a goose attacking a TCR worker, right?
- Yes, in Zhytomyr.
- And he was unable to defend himself. And I would have shot. I have an award-winning weapon that I would have taken out and killed that goose. That's it!
- Article 115 of the Criminal Code.
- It was premeditated murder. With my injuries, contusions, plus, it would have been an affective state - I would have been given seven years, and in three I would have been released. You sit quietly in prison, weaving nets, and then you shoot some shit. Just remember the story of Dima Balabukha, a tanker with the 72nd Brigade, who stabbed a guy who attacked and beat him at the Chernihivska metro station in Kyiv. Dima was getting on a bus, and the guy told him he wouldn't let him get on and hit him. The guy was a big guy, and Dima was about your height, a little guy. He went and bought a knife and stabbed the attacker. Then it started: ATO soldiers are killing people! But his actions should be qualified from the point of view of a military man - he did the right thing. Because it was a combat encounter in which he did not have enough forces and means to defeat the enemy, so he retreated, regrouped and struck the flank - that's it! The book says what you should do when you don't have enough forces and means to fight the enemy. And it turns out that we have civilians against the military, have we? Well, sooner or later they will start reacting in a military way! It will be a massive story. Now the number of weapons that are here is huge. There are between two and five million unregistered guns! Can you imagine what will happen here? Some healthy guy who was hiding from the war on a fake disability certificate will get drunk and put pressure on some military guy. And he won't be an easy one, for example, from a unit like mine, where everyone stands up for each other. And I won't care who the guy is - we'll get here in twenty minutes and there will be a massacre. No one will stop us – the police will not interfere. They can't do anything about it. Will they shoot at us? For obvious reasons, no. That's why I say we need changes. And the state should not hide behind the war, but act. We need not just to restore order, but even to rewrite history, to prepare people differently, to show new heroes. Look, the country has been at full-scale war for two years, and in order to change the history textbook, some academic council meets and cannot determine how to write it. Who do we know among the Ukrainian war heroes? Ivan Sirko, Petro Kalnyshevskyi, Bohdan Khmelnytskyi. That's it! And the Russians? Pokryshkin, Marat Kazey, Alexander Matrosov, in every village there is a frontispiece about the fallen f@cking orcs. They ram into their population. Who here knows about Ihor Branovytskyi? And he is a hero who died at the Donetsk airport. And how many more of them are there! Thousands of them! We don't write about any of them. So how do we raise our future generations? For whom are we saving and building this country? For them? Then we need to tell them that Russia is an enemy, a country that will never stop encroaching on our territory as long as it has its imperial f@cking ambitions. Who should do this?
- State.
- So why isn't she doing this work? This is about children. But adult men should be told that they have to go to war. To say: "You are a bank clerk, very important, but we have a similar one in the 53rd Brigade, whose arm was torn off, so he is on rotation - you have to replace him." Look, now conscripts are given a year to rest. 80 percent of them will f@ck off. Because the conditions are not transparent! The goal of the volunteer fighters who took up arms in the early days and fought for six months was to stop the invasion and allow the state to prepare reserves. But who did what? Today we need to recruit, for example, 300,000 people, and we have found only eight thousand. Are there many people willing to go voluntarily? Let's be honest: Ukraine is a country of immature nations that is always dissatisfied with the government. Ukrainians don't need anyone. They will always find someone who is a faggot. This is about the maturity of the nation. But in order to establish the rule of law, you can't snatch around, you have to pay taxes. People say that the law should be the same for everyone. Here we are on Kontraktova Square right now. What if we approached those sitting on that bench and asked them if they wanted everyone to be equal before the law? What would they say?
- Of course, they do.
- Then why are they drinking in a public place? Do you know what the answer will be? "I'm not drunk, I just had a bottle of beer." But this is already an administrative issue. Our society is not ready to be an adult. Everyone cites the example of Singapore. But no one knows the history. There, most of those who worked in public office went to prison, and people followed the law. Do we have many people like that? No. So what are we talking about? If we want transparent conditions, then they must be clear to everyone - both the authorities and citizens. As for mobilization, I'll tell you this: it will happen anyway. The problem is that we are a poor country. Recently, we have been surviving on donations from other countries that help us. They demand certain actions from us that are not done or are not done in the way they expect. This is the problem. Yes, mobilization is a pain in the ass. But the soldiers need to be dressed in something, given weapons, and so on. This is a lot of money. Where to get them? We need to revise the taxation system, imports, exports, etc. We have a certain number of businesses that have spent all their money so that we don't lose this war. I know many of them. Now they will have their taxes raised, and the state will do nothing to help them.
- You have a business too...
- Yes, I make underwear. I am ready to pay more taxes. Even during the war, I took a government grant for production - my wife arranged everything. I have an online store. But in order to make my business successful, I need to enter Ukrainian retail chains. For example, Silpo. This is a commercial structure that has certain conditions for entry. So I have to sign a contract with them, and I have to pay for it. And the terms of payment for my product are not favorable for me. Because a bank loan is 28 percent in hryvnia. I don't have that kind of margin. In order to produce a certain amount of product and deliver it to them, I need financing for materials, salaries, etc. And I have an agreement with them on deferred payment: that is, I will be paid 90 days after the sale of the goods. Three months, 28 percent. Do the math. And the state does nothing to create decent conditions for me, a Ukrainian producer. You can say whatever you want about d@mb-ass Lukashenko, but there is a rule in Belarus: 60 percent of categories must be locally produced. If this percentage is less, the store is fined. So he is looking for Belarusian products himself. We don't have that here. You see, during these 32 years of independence, we have not been able to do much, including becoming an adult.
- Can this war make us grow up?
- I cannot answer this question. Because I began to see clearly when I saw the list of professions that are subject to reservation (from mobilization. - O.M.) - camel breeder. F@ckin' A! Or, for example, an employee of Kyivpastrans. I used to work with this structure - it is very corrupt. The guys who have been there for 15 years, receive a salary of 30 thousand hryvnias, have nothing, but their wives are so talented - with f@cking great businesses and a lot of property. Well done to them! Although no matter how this war ends, if we retain our statehood, we will have a very high demand for justice from those who return. It will be very difficult for the next president, whether it is Volodymyr Oleksandrovych or someone else because he will still have to conduct some kind of dialogue with citizens, with a new layer of people who have some combat experience. And there will be more of them now. And who will then become second-class citizens? Those who can defend themselves? Or some drunken judge like the asshole who hit the National Guard? I think Lynch law are not far off. The day will come when it will " happen" somewhere. When such a precedent occurs, it will have a huge public outcry. The state will have to make a decision. Because we cannot allow anyone to be killed. But we pay taxes for it to protect our interests, so it should take our side. That's why I'm talking about a difficult decision. This is also about corruption, by the way.
- Which has not only not disappeared in Ukraine during the war, but is also flourishing.
- Corruption exists in every country. The question is to what extent. Our problem is not the presence of corruption, but its impunity. Unless there is some big publicity, like with the Hrynkevychs, everything is decided in the corridors. This is also a problem.
- Finally, let me ask you this question about mobilization: what kind of army should be like for people to go there not under duress?
- In the army, we need to do what we do in business - create opportunities for those who are motivated and capable. A person should see a prospect for him/herself here. The army is not a prison. They are afraid of the TCR because they think: "I will be a slave deprived of civil rights ". If you are all about, if you know how to learn, if you are a leader, you have a future here. You know, for most people from the country-side, if they are not dumbasses, the army is a great prospect. A soldier earns 25-27 thousand, plus 30 thousand for performance. This is one and a half thousand dollars. Where in the Vinnytsia region can he earn that kind of money just for not being a dumbass? Nowhere. Yes, fundraising takes a lot of money - we open them all the time. I'm ashamed of it, but I have to repair my car. For example, my Toyota Land Cruiser Prado cost me 100 thousand hryvnias last month. In general, in March, I spent almost 460 thousand hryvnias on repairs and refueling of cars that are not registered in the unit (because if you put them there, you may face certain difficulties, such as issues with write-offs, route sheets, etc. Nevertheless. So the main thing is that if you are in the army, you have to see prospects for your growth and development. We need to strive for this. So far, it is not so.
- We encourage them to join the army.
- People need to see the reality! So that they don't go to the army as if it were Calvary. I'm telling you: the thing is that they don't communicate with them. Now the Ministry of Defense seems to have started recruiting. I don't really believe in it. It's one thing when the 3rd Assault, Da Vinci's Wolves, Azov are doing it, and people go directly to the unit. But in the Armed Forces, there are commanders who are not ready to take on the responsibility of a soldier. So he came as a logistician. They ran out of assaultmen, so he was sent to assault. I can't say that this is a common occurrence, but it does happen. So he died there. One man died like that, and ten people will tell it - they will spread it everywhere, and even twist it. And it's like with the old ladies at the communal entrance hallway who say to a girl: "'Here comes the prostitute!" And she just works as a nurse in a hospital, so she comes home late. It's the same here. Until the state starts to communicate clearly, transparently and honestly with its citizens, we will not be able to change the situation. Once again: the army is not a prison, not a sentence, but a community of brothers. Yes, I have some people in my unit who have difficult relations with me, but I am ready to fight for each of them. Because I fought with them together. I owe my life to some people. And someone owes his to me. This is about the adult position we all have to take.
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